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fer4l Moderator Nil illegitimi carborundum Posts: 3,679	ADO16 May 30, 2021 8:54:29 GMT MkX likes this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by fer4l on May 30, 2021 8:54:29 GMT ^^^ cracking to see such a similar pair in far flung locations! Agree it would be brave to buy sight unseen, and I believe there are pitfalls in both territories for the unwary and / or innocent, but both look lovely at face value
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ADO16 May 31, 2021 12:46:30 GMT fer4l likes this

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May 30, 2021 8:54:29 GMT fer4l said:

^^^ cracking to see such a similar pair in far flung locations! Agree it would be brave to buy sight unseen, and I believe there are pitfalls in both territories for the unwary and / or innocent, but both look lovely at face value

You are not wrong.. I bought mine unseen and it was less than 100 miles away. Luckily it paid off for me though..

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ADO16 Jun 1, 2021 16:29:46 GMT

Post by MkX on Jun 1, 2021 16:29:46 GMT

May 30, 2021 6:56:06 GMT MkX said:

Anyone who pays attention to this thread, or a similar thread on 'the other site' will know that the 1300 GT in Austin or Morris flavour is a rare beast. Even rarer in good condition. In the UK this was a very popular car in its day and a lot were sold yet with a population of 67 million we might only see 2 or 3 decent or half decent GT's coming up for sale during the course of a year. It would be very unusual to see a couple of good ones listed simultaneously.

Paul's mission to get his hands on a good GT has played out over years and with all the near misses it got me wondering how many GTs are about in other rhd countries and how do prices compare to UK?

One of the biggest ad sites in New Zealand 'Trade Me' amazed me by having 2 decent looking cars on at the same time, both on South Island, (population of less than 1 million).

I followed an auction which started off with a reserve of NZ$12K, in the closing hours of the auction, (with no bids), the vendor dropped the reserve to NZ$11K (£5½K). It was unsold and re-listed.

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3095364573

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3114163150

Another on with a reserve of circa £6K.
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3099379443

£5K or £6K in the UK would buy a rough GT needing a lot of work. These cars would be worth double on the UK market what they're worth in NZ.

How much would shipping and re-registering the cars cost? I'm guessing it might add up to another £2½K per car. That's still cheap and it's a model that doesn't come up on the market often here in good condition.

Japan's not giving them away so cheaply but they're available occasionally;

Just under £10K.

www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/AUSTIN/AUSTIN_1300/700115702930180529001/index.html

It's a gamble and a big leap of faith, (unless you have a contact in the relevant country). Time to start bringing these little fellah's back home to Blighty?

For reference;

The 2nd NZ auction ended today. The starting bid threshold had been set at NZ$11½K, (£5,888.27), no bids at close of auction. Relisted with a starting bid threshold of £11K, (£5632.26).

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ADO16 Jun 1, 2021 23:43:12 GMT via mobile

Post by Paul on Jun 1, 2021 23:43:12 GMT

Jun 1, 2021 16:29:46 GMT MkX said:

May 30, 2021 6:56:06 GMT MkX said:

Anyone who pays attention to this thread, or a similar thread on 'the other site' will know that the 1300 GT in Austin or Morris flavour is a rare beast. Even rarer in good condition. In the UK this was a very popular car in its day and a lot were sold yet with a population of 67 million we might only see 2 or 3 decent or half decent GT's coming up for sale during the course of a year. It would be very unusual to see a couple of good ones listed simultaneously.

Paul's mission to get his hands on a good GT has played out over years and with all the near misses it got me wondering how many GTs are about in other rhd countries and how do prices compare to UK?

One of the biggest ad sites in New Zealand 'Trade Me' amazed me by having 2 decent looking cars on at the same time, both on South Island, (population of less than 1 million).

I followed an auction which started off with a reserve of NZ$12K, in the closing hours of the auction, (with no bids), the vendor dropped the reserve to NZ$11K (£5½K). It was unsold and re-listed.

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3095364573

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3114163150

Another on with a reserve of circa £6K.
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3099379443

£5K or £6K in the UK would buy a rough GT needing a lot of work. These cars would be worth double on the UK market what they're worth in NZ.

How much would shipping and re-registering the cars cost? I'm guessing it might add up to another £2½K per car. That's still cheap and it's a model that doesn't come up on the market often here in good condition.

Japan's not giving them away so cheaply but they're available occasionally;

Just under £10K.

www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/AUSTIN/AUSTIN_1300/700115702930180529001/index.html

It's a gamble and a big leap of faith, (unless you have a contact in the relevant country). Time to start bringing these little fellah's back home to Blighty?

For reference;

The 2nd NZ auction ended today. The starting bid threshold had been set at NZ$11½K, (£5,888.27), no bids at close of auction. Relisted with a starting bid threshold of £11K, (£5632.26).

A gamble I’d not feel comfortable making sadly I feel .. they both are lovely looking examples.

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Post by grumpynorthener on Jun 2, 2021 7:01:31 GMT

72' VDP version but with a difference - its had a power plant swop with a MG Metro engine installed & 5 speed box - pics are an injustice in the respect that this car needs a lot of work - body, paint & interior require a lot of work - vendor is in cuckoo land with his £4k asking price

www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1345713

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ADO16 Jun 2, 2021 7:16:53 GMT

Post by grumpynorthener on Jun 2, 2021 7:16:53 GMT

Jun 1, 2021 23:43:12 GMT Paul said:

Jun 1, 2021 16:29:46 GMT MkX said:

For reference;

The 2nd NZ auction ended today. The starting bid threshold had been set at NZ$11½K, (£5,888.27), no bids at close of auction. Relisted with a starting bid threshold of £11K, (£5632.26).

A gamble I’d not feel comfortable making sadly I feel .. they both are lovely looking examples.

The first one in NZ is a very good / sound car - I'd be requesting some more pics / info on it and looking at shipping / import costs - you could always enlist an independent vehicle inspector to go through it for you - given its asking price + costs landed here even if it wasn't what you wanted and given what they demand in the UK you would always get your money back ++ upon resale here

The second one in NZ is nowhere near the quality of the one above

The Japanese one has had a serious amount of recent paintwork and if you look carefully its covered in overspray on items that shouldn't be painted - has nice as it looks I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole

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ADO16 Jun 2, 2021 10:42:41 GMT

Post by fer4l on Jun 2, 2021 10:42:41 GMT

Jun 2, 2021 7:01:31 GMT grumpynorthener said:

72' VDP version but with a difference - its had a power plant swop with a MG Metro engine installed & 5 speed box - pics are an injustice in the respect that this car needs a lot of work - body, paint & interior require a lot of work - vendor is in cuckoo land with his £4k asking price

www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1345713

Very rare (and either hugely desirable or famously unreliable, depending on make / type) if it's a 5 speed A series...

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grumpynorthener Driver Posts: 8,480	ADO16 Jun 7, 2021 20:18:38 GMT moglite and fer4l like this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by grumpynorthener on Jun 7, 2021 20:18:38 GMT Super clean 1971 Austin 1100 manual - looks the part inside & out - private sale & fairly priced @ £4,700 ONO www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1348180
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fer4l Moderator Nil illegitimi carborundum Posts: 3,679	ADO16 Jun 9, 2021 10:29:53 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by fer4l on Jun 9, 2021 10:29:53 GMT Jun 7, 2021 20:18:38 GMT grumpynorthener said: Super clean 1971 Austin 1100 manual - looks the part inside & out - private sale & fairly priced @ £4,700 ONO www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1348180 Love it - if only it were a darker hue I'd be on my way!
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droopsnoot Grease Monkey Posts: 344	ADO16 Jun 9, 2021 17:11:42 GMT fer4l, grumpynorthener, and 2 more like this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by droopsnoot on Jun 9, 2021 17:11:42 GMT At some point I must post a photo of my Dad's one-owner-from-new 1300, but there's a bit too much stuff piled on it to get it out of the garage at the moment.
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grumpynorthener Driver Posts: 8,480	ADO16 Jun 11, 2021 8:47:06 GMT MkX likes this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by grumpynorthener on Jun 11, 2021 8:47:06 GMT 1964 MG 1100 Mk 1 - Rare ADO16 variant - manual box - low mileage - very clean & smartly presented £7,500 www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1349768
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strikey Administrator trust my advice at your peril! Posts: 3,341	ADO16 Jun 13, 2021 13:23:08 GMT via mobile Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by strikey on Jun 13, 2021 13:23:08 GMT Whats the deal with the interior? Would the door panels be 2 tone and would it also have cream carpet? Just doesnt look "right".
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Jun 13, 2021 13:23:08 GMT strikey said:

Whats the deal with the interior? Would the door panels be 2 tone and would it also have cream carpet? Just doesnt look "right".

2 tone door panels are OE factory - Carpet - I'm unsure could be non OE replacement and had to go with whatever colour was available

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ADO16 Jun 19, 2021 22:07:21 GMT

Post by MkX on Jun 19, 2021 22:07:21 GMT

Meanwhile on the other side of the planet, the NZ$11K 1300 GT now has a starting price of NZ$8K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3133183556?bof=JOisUNju

And there's a new non-hanging GT with a starting price of NZ$12K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3138139891?bof=JOisUNju

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Jun 19, 2021 22:07:21 GMT MkX said:

Meanwhile on the other side of the planet, the NZ$11K 1300 GT now has a starting price of NZ$8K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3133183556?bof=JOisUNju

And there's a new non-hanging GT with a starting price of NZ$12K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3138139891?bof=JOisUNju

Both of those look better than most of the UK cars posted here.

NZ$8K is £4,018 currently to save anyone else doing the conversion

The orange one is a hair over £6K at the moment.

I've no idea what shipping/import charges would be, but if you are brave enough to buy blind - they still look to be good value currently.

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ADO16 Jun 20, 2021 9:43:19 GMT

Post by MkX on Jun 20, 2021 9:43:19 GMT

Jun 20, 2021 5:29:58 GMT moglite said:

Jun 19, 2021 22:07:21 GMT MkX said:

Meanwhile on the other side of the planet, the NZ$11K 1300 GT now has a starting price of NZ$8K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3133183556?bof=JOisUNju

And there's a new non-hanging GT with a starting price of NZ$12K;
www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/austin/1300/listing/3138139891?bof=JOisUNju

Both of those look better than most of the UK cars posted here.

NZ$8K is £4,018 currently to save anyone else doing the conversion

The orange one is a hair over £6K at the moment.

I've no idea what shipping/import charges would be, but if you are brave enough to buy blind - they still look to be good value currently.

You just need 6 or 8 good 'uns to fill a double-stacked shipping container!

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