Post by toomanyprojects on Oct 13, 2020 21:40:55 GMT
As if I don't have enough else on of my own, I've also taken on the mantle of this little project for my little bro (he's not that little really...)
Originally purchased in Oct 2010, yup 10 years ago, it's been quite the saga ever since, with the only progress, err being, well backwards.
Anyway I've been busy the last couple of weeks liberating it from its place of incarceration and taking it on a couple of roadtrips around the country, first to home and then to be treated for a much needed bath and protection treatment (more on that in a bit).
Before then let's start at the beginning, and as it was bought as a running driving van, albeit a slightly scary one as its a cali import fitted with a reduction box... which meant it was slow... really, really slow 😳
Very nice. My mate imported this 65 from California but needless to say it didn't look like this. It had the rear arches chopped out and some big balloon tyres on it. He totally restored it and his father-in-law painted it for him.
Wow I can't imagine how you can make one of these even slower! Looking forward to the updates
Funny you should say that... let me explain how.
But first a bit of a preamble. This was in fact my brother's third VW bus... project 1 was a 1972 crossover bay window van, project 2 was more of a donation for spares - a 1974 bay window westfalia with a seized engine and terminal rot, that got dismantled for parts, what wasn't taken to the scrap man still resides somewhere in my parents garden.
Anyway back to project 1, unfortunately upon getting to the 'restorers' it was declared too far gone and so not viable to restore. So a search was started for another van as a project base, the splitty was found, inspection conducted, deal done (for a very decent deal looking back in hindsight) and the van collected and driven to my grandad's house shown in the pictures above. It then went up the road to the nearby restorers... where things at first looked promising...
First step was to completely strip it to expose all the usual rot spots, it was then sent for blasting, on return the front panel was taken off and sprayed as an indication of the colour scheme - visible in one of the pics below.
Some of the rotten metal was cut out and some bits started to be repaired, money sent and new parts and panels ordered... and then things stopped. Updates from the restorer went quiet, no amount of calling or emailing could get a response and I'll be honest having heard of a few horror stories I was getting rather worried.
Eventually we were able to get back in contact and find out what had happened - seemingly the result of him losing several of his workforce and his main welder as he wasn't happy with his work. As it turns out it was to be the start of a tortuous 8 years of excuses. To the point my brother was tempted to sell as he'd lost all enthusiasm and frankly got depressed everytime the project was mentioned, hence big bro stepping in to get things moving again.
Fast forward to early October and after much negotiation and nagging on my part, a liberation day was agreed ahead of it being booked in to get treated and a trip to another well-known and highly recommended body shop for restoration in Shropshire.
Suffice to say progress hadn't been exactly plentiful in nearly 10 years to the day of purchase
Bro's cat even seemed unimpressed when inspecting
Knowing that the van was in need of retreating for rust having been sat for most of that time in primer, I'd already booked it in for a treatment at Ribble Technology in Preston having spoken to them at the NEC show the previous year with grumpynorthener . The day after collection I spent a few hours going over everything to remove any last remaining parts
as well as gathering the various panels to go for treating (SWMBO was loving the use of our front room as a parts store once again!)
So last Friday was delivery day, parts all sorted, car loaded, trailer hitched up in the early hours and car pointed north
and a few hours later after a fuel stop or two (for me and the car!) the van was soon dropped off, hopefully it won't look like this for too much longer
All being well I'll be heading north again to collect the van next week and dropping another of the projects off at the same time. The van will then get taken straight to its next stop on its restoration journey - exciting times ahead!
...and that is how you make one of these slower... albeit hopefully only temporarily
I really must update the other threads as things have been happening on those as well despite mild distractions of work and trying to move house. One day I'll learn... maybe.
Glad to have you along for the ride Jim, hoping now that it's in hand so to speak things should gather pace somewhat, well they can't have progressed (or regressed) any slower than they have done so far!
Post by toomanyprojects on Oct 30, 2020 17:58:29 GMT
Well that didn't quite go to plan on a number of fronts...
Firstly the daily made an embarrassment of itself and so the collection was delayed by a week while I tried to get that sorted. Sadly, despite my best efforts with the time I had, I failed miserably and without a free slot in a local garage I resorted to hiring a van as my tow vehicle of choice. As it turned out it was probably not a bad outcome as despite the uncomfortable seating (give me the disco any day!) and lack of cruise control, it proved remarkably frugal and I managed the 600 odd mile journey up there and back on just over a tank of diesel - result.
With the shell and panels loaded the night before, I parked the van outside, covered the shell and went to bed much later than intended. Before I knew it the alarm had gone off at 4am to make a 6.30am service station rendezvous with grumpynorthener to collect some additional Jowett rims for treatment. (I must confess the short break was much needed as by that point the seating situation was already taking its toll!). After leaving him I ended up having a remarkably smooth and quiet journey up on what was seemingly a very pleasant Autumn day...
However I may have thought that a little too soon!
I made my destination just after 10.30am and was greeted with the sight of the bus looking considerably better than when I left it a few weeks back
Time to play swaps and get the Celica and parts in the van unloaded
and the bus back on the trailer... it was at this point the northern weather made it's first appearance in the form of hail . Still we managed to get the shell on the trailer easily enough and so I got busy with the ratchet straps
It's not the worst thing to tow but is definitely heavier and catches the wind more than the celica.
Now frustratingly this is where the second issue arose, due to the bodyshop not yet being ready to receive it (something called Covid-19 has messed with their schedules on a few things it seems), I was going to have to bring the shell all the way back down south, not a problem for the next couple of weeks while the celica is away but I'll need to find some better storage for however long I've got to wait. A conundrum for this weekend I think.
After a bit of a slog coming back, not to mention having to deal with the delights of the M25, it was soon unloaded, wiped down to dry off as much of the rain as I could and put in the workshop with the A35 for company.
The rest of the panels I then took over to my parents place for squirreling away while they were out the house.
A beer and bed soon beckoned - after 15 hours on the road and 617 miles covered I slept rather well that night!
Some of the new vans are incredible on fuel. However the amount of electronic gubbins that need to be replaced to get a dashboard light to stay off are horrific. ( One of Fords offerings,35k miles....£3500 in sensors to pass a MOT).. Definitely a case of hire a van when needed, and let somebody else have the pleasure of paying for it when it goes wrong....😊
Post by toomanyprojects on Jun 29, 2021 11:35:02 GMT
It's been a while and the camper has been patiently waiting it's spot in the limelight, however a couple of weeks back a text arrived... time to book a day off work
Last week therefore saw some much awaited logistics on the VW bus front and its liberation from the barn where it's been stored since last October. The minor issue, we'd moved 150 miles away in the meantime!
So last Wednesday after work I pulled the trailer out and hooked it onto the discovery ready for the journey south and a night back in my old childhood bedroom (awww), alas on hooking the trailer up I had an issue - no side lights... and those that did work, such as the indicators, worked in places they really shouldn't have... hmmm
Casting my mind back I remembered it was 'borrowed' by someone with a much more modern vehicle (one fitted with a 13 pin plug) and so I suspect some re-wiring was carried out unbeknown to me, there were also some 'modifications' made to a couple of the rear lenses. So much for a simple hook up and go! Time for some fault tracing and repair, luckily I keep spares handy.
Thanks to my multimeter dying right at the opportune time it was a game of 'attach and see' which eventually ended up with the right result, although I still didn't have side lights on the N/S, as it was getting late that was going to have to be a job for another time, the O/S with passing traffic is normally more important so I could live with it as it was. So a bit later than planned it was time to hit the road
Luckily for me it was a lovely summer's evening and perfect for a drive, must confess I rather enjoyed it, and as I neared my destination the moon even came up to light the last leg (many, many bugs were harmed that eve!)
After working from a new location on Thursday (this new remote working has its advantages), I headed over to the barn to load the camper where it was previously kept company by these two
before heading back to extract the aforementioned spare parts and panels that had been squirreled away in wardrobes and under beds ready for an early start the next morning
Thankfully the early start meant that the M25 was kind and I was soon at my first stop at Beaconsfield to load up on breakfast and LPG... except they've done away with the latter so it was going to be a trip on the more expensive fuel instead. It later turned out that nowhere near Birmingham had any either due to a shortage of lorry drivers at the mo (who knew) so Shell's finest was the only option.
After some good fun on the roads between the M42 and on my way to Bridgnorth I finally arrived at mpr 's (Midland Performance and Retro) just before 10 and unloaded the van, where it joined a younger sibling as well as Jonny Smith's Allegro project and numerous others that the guys have there - they work on some eclectic motors!
Mike had previously got in touch when he heard of the ongoing saga about two years ago, but it then took me that long to extract it from the previous 'restorer', Mike and his team also came highly recommended by a certain chap with an affliction for Rover SD1s, the most famous being his police variant they painted for him. After previously being mucked about it was a no brainer once we'd had a chat and figured out that we had the same vision for the van, then it was simply a case of timing.
Anyway shell unloaded and parts sorted, it was time to head south once more as I had another shell to collect and a delivery to make the following day to a certain johnnybravo for a little challenge grumpynorthener has set him involving these, or more specifically parts of them
Post by toomanyprojects on Oct 4, 2021 14:25:04 GMT
So while I'm unable to do much rolling about on the ground and work on the BGT at present, exactly a year on from its liberation, it is time to get busy with the camper once again.
A phone call from one of the guys at Midland Performance and Retro last week confirming that they wanted to get cracking with the van (excellent news), prompted a trip down south for some part relocation ready for a trip over to Shropshire. Essentially once they have everything in hand a plan can be devised.
So the disco was employed as parts hauler once again
Post by toomanyprojects on Oct 25, 2021 16:46:21 GMT
This weekend saw an early start and a trip over to Shropshire to deliver the next round of parts, fingers crossed we see the formation of a game plan and some tangible progress.
Speaking of which, despite leaving at 6am, being there by 9.40 (stopped for breakfast), a catch up then project tour, and then another 3hr trip back, we were home for lunch by 2, meaning further progress on the MG... but more on that over on that thread.
Sorry for lack of pics, few other clients' cars in and so always a little wary of sharing images, but there were some familiar motors including a small brown japanese pickup truck other members may be familiar with, a certain allegro of youtube channel fame as well as some other interesting bits of kit.
Post by toomanyprojects on Jan 31, 2022 16:39:09 GMT
I thought the collective would like to see an update, and it's positive news to report on the bus front too, which given it's been in the making for over 10 years, is somewhat of a rarity. The team at MPR are doing a sterling job though and updates have been frequent.
Yes, we have progress and it's been rather swift. Damn thing will be done before any of mine at this rate
As pictures speak a thousand words, have several thousand in one go; panels have been trial fitted and measurements checked prior to welding, slowly slowly it's becoming a van again.