Now I have finally figured out what add-on Proboards did not like during registration I can continue the story of my previously broken 97 Jaguar XK8.
Acquired from a certain grumpy person from higher latitudes , - who may be from oop north but he's not grumpy at all she was in need of some MOT TLC in the form of rusty sills (fixed by GN), front wheel bearing, seized front brakes and horrendous emissions.
MOT passed a short while later.
noice.. however a little buttock surgery was required due to some over enthusiastic rear end bumping so out with the grinder on both sides
I ordered a couple of rear quarters from a breaker and waited 2 weeks for P2G to pick the things up.
These are spot on with only a minimal rust spot on one. Thinking I might experiment and pull a fiberglass mould off one as the bottom section that is rusty is not structural.
Thanks Chris, hope you are on the mend. Would have been here sooner but some issues with registration!
Was planning on chopping and butt welding these but mow wondering about welding the structural internals and using a joggled edge and adhesive for the external skin - that would keep the factory finish on 90% of it, no worries of distortion (and filler needed) and I can abrade the existing finish and paint over.
Thanks Chris, hope you are on the mend. Would have been here sooner but some issues with registration!
Was planning on chopping and butt welding these but mow wondering about welding the structural internals and using a joggled edge and adhesive for the external skin - that would keep the factory finish on 90% of it, no worries of distortion (and filler needed) and I can abrade the existing finish and paint over.
Paul - Thankfully well down the recovery road - Great idea on bonding the repair sections - that's exactly how I would go about it at my end - I have a lots of panel bonding experience with the Jupiter's - should you need any pointers / supplier recommendations etc - please don't hesitate to ask - Chris
mmmm... interesting idea. been following this one elsewhere , so good to see updates here now. only now figured why its "kate"...durrrr...! certainly nice to the the old cat is in good hands and slowly coming back to form.
Thanks Chris - glad it was not a completely mad idea! Yes please for a glue recommendation and any other pointers.
strikey - my other Jag is an X-Type that I rescued on it's way to the scrapyard. I didn't know if it was dead or alive until I opened the bonnet so i called it Erwin...
Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, devised by Austrian-Irish physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935,[1] during the course of discussions with Albert Einstein.[2] It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The scenario presents a hypothetical cat that may be simultaneously both alive and dead,[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] a state known as a quantum superposition, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.
Schrödinger's cat: a cat, a flask of poison, and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box. If an internal monitor (e.g. Geiger counter) detects radioactivity (i.e. a single atom decaying), the flask is shattered, releasing the poison, which kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead. Yet, when one looks in the box, one sees the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead. This poses the question of when exactly quantum superposition ends and reality collapses into one possibility or the other.
The thought experiment is also often featured in theoretical discussions of the interpretations of quantum mechanics, particularly in situations involving the measurement problem. Schrödinger coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement) in the course of developing the thought experiment.
Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, devised by Austrian-Irish physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935,[1] during the course of discussions with Albert Einstein.[2] It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The scenario presents a hypothetical cat that may be simultaneously both alive and dead,[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] a state known as a quantum superposition, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.
Schrödinger's cat: a cat, a flask of poison, and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box. If an internal monitor (e.g. Geiger counter) detects radioactivity (i.e. a single atom decaying), the flask is shattered, releasing the poison, which kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead. Yet, when one looks in the box, one sees the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead. This poses the question of when exactly quantum superposition ends and reality collapses into one possibility or the other.
The thought experiment is also often featured in theoretical discussions of the interpretations of quantum mechanics, particularly in situations involving the measurement problem. Schrödinger coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement) in the course of developing the thought experiment.
Well here I am making incorrect assumptions of others yet again (occasional trait of the stubborn Yorkshireman that resides in the South) - I'd always assumed that you had studied law & not physics
Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, devised by Austrian-Irish physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935,[1] during the course of discussions with Albert Einstein.[2] It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The scenario presents a hypothetical cat that may be simultaneously both alive and dead,[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] a state known as a quantum superposition, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.
Schrödinger's cat: a cat, a flask of poison, and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box. If an internal monitor (e.g. Geiger counter) detects radioactivity (i.e. a single atom decaying), the flask is shattered, releasing the poison, which kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead. Yet, when one looks in the box, one sees the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead. This poses the question of when exactly quantum superposition ends and reality collapses into one possibility or the other.
The thought experiment is also often featured in theoretical discussions of the interpretations of quantum mechanics, particularly in situations involving the measurement problem. Schrödinger coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement) in the course of developing the thought experiment.
Well here I am making incorrect assumptions of others yet again (occasional trait of the stubborn Yorkshireman that resides in the South) - I'd always assumed that you had studied law & not physics
Well that’s all fine and well until you use Sid the Cat. He would be hatching a plan to use the poison to kill rats and the Radio active source as a tracking device on those that got away....
interestingly enough,as soon as people see radio active source,most will see it in a negative light. Bit of useless information ,but certain industries use Radio active cable ties, so they can scan for waifs and stray bits of them after maintenance procedures. Said cable ties are also very loud colours. I won’t go into further details, but it was a protocol adopted after bits of a cable tie couldn’t be accounted for after a routine mantainence job which resulted in a tear down to find the missing bits that cost several million pounds..
Post by grumpynorthener on Oct 15, 2020 16:40:09 GMT
Panel bonding is utilised on most modern vehicle production assembly lines - being a cold cure process it removes the high risk of distortion created by the heat process of welding - used sensibly there's absolutely no reason why the same procedure cant be used for external / non structural panels on older vehicles (which I already do) here's a few images of my methodology
Removed damaged section and swaged / flanged edge to accept new repair
Trial fit of panel retained with panel clips - holes drilled & countersunk to take CS 3.2mm rivets
Trial fitted to check aperture gapping etc
Panel bond applied & repair retained with rivets
Repair & rivets dressed back upon curing of panel bond - any open centers left from the dressing back of the rivets must be plugged with panel bond - I use a product supplied by Kent Europe which is excellent - unfortunately its a trade only account but I'm more than happy to order it in for you (has I've done for others before today) then post it down to you - it works out at about £60 which I appreciate isn't cheap but unlike the other panel bond adhesives you can use a normal skeleton gun where the vast majority of the others require a special application gun that's at least another £60 on top of the price of the panel bond in the first place - just advise if you require any further info / help - Chris
What are you using to form the flanged edge - sure I can acquire a cheap/expensive Chinese joggler from ebay - but as it is quite a large curved section I suspect there is a better way.
What are you using to form the flanged edge - sure I can acquire a cheap/expensive Chinese joggler from ebay - but as it is quite a large curved section I suspect there is a better way.
I have a air fed step flanger / joggler that really makes light work of it - its a Clarke one and really gets the job done - I wouldn't bother with the manual hand operated ones - the ones on e bay all look to be by the same manufacture just with different brand names - there's a no name one that's £45 and its identical bar the colour to the rest of them
If you don't think that you are going find a use for it again you could always sell it on once done with it - the alternative is that you are welcome to loan mine - I wont be using it for the next 3 - 4 weeks or so - just the cost of postage from me to you then back - Chris
Thanks Chris - that could well work. I'll ask around for a used one first though.
- I had the same thought about the ebay ones. I know the garage I freelance at occasionally has a really expensive hand one, but I doubt they have an air one as not their thing.
Looking at the panels today my thoughts are to cut and butt weld or joggle+panel bond at the non compound "flat" section rather than the smallest section - I only need 50mm up from the bottom but that is a heavily curved area. I'm assuming that that joggling is going to be difficult on a compound curve.
So I marked out the singe curvature areas with lines and marked a line across them. The RHS has a big dent in the back so that needs to be a bigger piece - the light end of that one is compound for a few inches but can't be avoided. Also going to cut out a section around the wheel arch at the same time.