I thought the liners were meant to protrude slightly on the K series anyway
Can't remember the last time I saw one of these on the roads tho!
Indeed they are, 0.004" evenly. Mine aren't but it is such a ballache to pull the liners to shim them I used the Payen BW750 gasket which is recommended for uneven or slightly dropped liners. There is a lot of 'discussion' about K series headgaskets which, after a lot of research, boils down to
1) Liners level and in spec - fit JLR MLS or MG N series gasket as upgrade with N series bolts and oil rail
2) Liners uneven or level with block - Payen BW750 upgrade with N series bolts and oil rail
3) Liners sunken into block - reshim liners and BW750
4) Liners the repairer can't be arsed to measure - any gasket set, claim its an upgrade and get shot.....
(and yes I have heard of someone wazzing 0.004" off the block and refitting the old liners....)
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Ahh the K series, good little engines even though they got a lot of bad press, knew about the head gasket issues but didn't know about the liner problems, every day is a school day!
Ahh the K series, good little engines even though they got a lot of bad press, knew about the head gasket issues but didn't know about the liner problems, every day is a school day!
Indeed, cracking engines, way ahead of their time but with built-in 'foibles'. I took a 216Sli for a track day, endured all the usual 'headgasket' jibes, but it drank a whole tank of fuel, flat out everywhere and still came back for more. They really like a good "Italian Tune-Up"....
Anyway, back to the item in hand - the various bits to connect the engine to the body have all now arrived, but in a state of tiredness, muggins 'ere ordered the wrong bolts for the clutch so that's slowed things down a tad. The plan is to get the engine and box together and dangle it in the engine compartment to see what, where and how it all goes together, although someone on the maestro forums has put a VVC in a Maestro so that can act as a good cross-reference for me.
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The brother-in-law has a couple of Lotus, lotuses, Loti? A 340R and an Elise which use the 1800cc version, they get tracked a lot but not without problems,they are tuned up a fair bit which doesn't help matters!
Doesn't it annoy you when you order something and four days later the email of "Dispatched" arrives, just as you're about to go nuclear and ask where the effin hell the bits are.... anyway, it slowed things down but the arrival of some other bits sped things up!
Earliier this week I attached the flywheel with nice new bolts and torqued it all up;
But, with the clutch bolts still AWOL, I couldn't really progress any further, so, with help from SWMBO and Mini-SWMBO and Barley The Dog getting in the way, I moved the van back down to the patio from under the oak tree....
Then a nice box appeared with a complete inlet manifold, injector rail, regulator, all the piping and the correct throttle body. Now that will make life easier! Anyway, SWMBO and I removed the bonnet to get access to the engine bay and seeing as today was a nice, sunny, balmy day, I thought I'd roughly bolt the gearbox and engine together and see how it sat in there.
It was a tad hair-raising as the floor is a bit rough and wobbly, but after much cursing and prodding, things started to look promising....
Looks almost like it should live in there..... I had my doubts as to whether it would be OK, but seeing as Rover Group shoehorned a diesel anchor in there, it should go OK!
I finally got it low enough, but the chassis leg looks like it will need a bit of relief on the cam end to fit the hydromount.....
But, the other end looks almost good to go - this is the end I will work from as I can set the centreline of the driveshafts from here and get it attached firts, then the tilt of the engine can be factored in to where I need to fit the other end mount. The sump mount will need a bracket welding to the existing subframe to make that work OK.
Even the clutch cable lines up.....
Well, after a reasonably successful first fit, I whipped it out and pulled the gearbox off to await the clutch bolts, and the new gearbox mount bracket. I am now more confident this build is a goer!
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Aaannnddd at last the clutch bolts arrived this morning! Put the clutch together then bolted the whole shooting match together properly. I just need one more bracket to appear and the engine can be hung properly to get the fixing points sorted out and make sure there is space front and rear for the inlet and exhaust. I was thinking about getting a 3" fence post to hang the engine from on ratchet straps, but found the aluminium box rear crash bar off my ZTT is a perfect fit across the inner wings so that will do!
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Was going to hit the like button but that didn't seem appropriate!
Fair enough! Anyhow, the tide went down and seeing as a part I needed had arrived in the post, as it was a really nice day with nothing else planned, I decided to see how far I could get on the initial "First Fix" of getting the lump in. So, after much cursing and swearing, kicking and heaving, I got the crane, complete with engine and gearbox, to here...
Some of the sharper eyed amongst you may see an alignment tool poking out of the front hub - just a piece of 22mm copper pipe between the drive hubs so I could assess where the gearbox would end up in relation to the drive shafts...
Yes, it's rough and ready but it works... anyway, you remember what I said about the MG ZTT rear crash bar? Can that, it slipped around too much so a quick visit to the local Homebase procured a 3x3 fence post 6ft long, which along with some cheap ratchet straps enabled me to get shot of the crane...
But, how that was rigged meant it hung wrong; the engine needs to tilt forwards a bit to allow the engine mounts to sit level, so I had a quick re-arrangement and after some more swearing, got it on it's own engine mount points, which allows in to hang 'right-ish';
As you can see on this pic, I'd heaved the engine into a position of squareness to the subframe/slam panel, marked, drilled and put in the initial support bolts. That chassis leg is thicker than it looks as the original mounts are attached to a thick steel plate inside, welded into position. I thought the engine looked a bit high, but actually when looked at for bonnet clearance, it's ok, and the sump is level with the bottom of the front crossmember. The suspension is set up for a diesel so it like it's on stilts, even with this lot hanging on it, so I think a new front end may be in order to bring the driveshaft angles less acute. Anyway, onwards...
With the engine level and square and attached at the gearbox end, it was time to work out what would be needed at the other end. It was hanging at about the right angle, so I assessed whether the frame would need chopping... no, doesn't look like it! I then got hold of the massive boat anchor that masquerades as an engine mount for the diesel and offered that up...
You may just be able to see the bolt hole in the top of the frame for the front mount hole - now at the right position, the hydromount just clears the frame at the back, so, I decided to get the old angle grinder out and have a chopping session, once I'd sort of sussed what needed to be lost..
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The old mount lost a lot of its height down to the level of the frame and once a new baseplate had been worked out for the hydromount, I got the hot stick out of retirement and wazzed to together. It needed a fair bit of welding but finally I got there with it. Before I'd decided on all this, I had fitted a scrap exhaust manifold to check front clearance and a gash inlet manifold for the rear; it went in with plenty of room to spare..
The only bit I do have some thoughts about is the gearbox selector quadrant; it hits the bulkhead a bit so it may end up with some tittivation to fit, especially if I end up making a set of selector rods up myself...
Anyway, as I was busy sorting the mount out, I turned my thoughs to the reaction bar on the top of the mount. It 'sort of' looked like it would line up, but not quite, and to be honest I need to fit the lower engine mount before I fit this as the engine must be at the right angle. So, I just wazzed the rest of the diesel mount off level as I can assemble the bits I need later on....
A quick coat of paint and the new mount went in, just as the heavens opened (again) and stopped play. The engine doesn't quite hang right, but its in, supported and looks even more like it belongs in there! I'm one damp and happy camper!
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Well that's todays activities suspended..... it's p*ss*ng down again....
Yep - do you have a gazebo type thing that you could stick over it or is that way too much faff ?
I do, but the balanced flue for the gas boiler comes out just where it would need to be erected; and the 'patio' is at the bottom of a sloping garden.... I'll just have to pick my battles...
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After a weekend of picking battles and losing, I got the engine hanging right with the application of a ratchet strap around the engine to the rear or the front subframe. I also noticed there is a nice set of brackets almost in line with the end of the bellhousing, so a quick scoot around the bay of E's found a Metro lower mount that looks like it will bolt straight onto the bellhousing and line up. Fingers crossed!
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After a weekend of picking battles and losing, I got the engine hanging right with the application of a ratchet strap around the engine to the rear or the front subframe. I also noticed there is a nice set of brackets almost in line with the end of the bellhousing, so a quick scoot around the bay of E's found a Metro lower mount that looks like it will bolt straight onto the bellhousing and line up. Fingers crossed!
Wellll..... it sort of works, so looks like a modded version may appear. in other news, a new (old) starter motor has arrived and been fitted.
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After a weekend of picking battles and losing, I got the engine hanging right with the application of a ratchet strap around the engine to the rear or the front subframe. I also noticed there is a nice set of brackets almost in line with the end of the bellhousing, so a quick scoot around the bay of E's found a Metro lower mount that looks like it will bolt straight onto the bellhousing and line up. Fingers crossed!
Wellll..... it sort of works, so looks like a modded version may appear. in other news, a new (old) starter motor has arrived and been fitted.
And after a rare Monday parcels delivery, the alternator bracket (lower version) and the new Metro post-'90 clutch cable arrived. Both have been fitted and the first control of the new power pack is a clutch!!!
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I thought I'd stick some meat on the bones of the latest activity; after a few days of collecting junk/emptying sheds etc and planning a raid on the Dump, I decided, seeing as the weather was smiling upon me, to do some further rootling with regards to the lower engine mount. To recap; I had 'found' an alternator and fitted it to the brackets I had to buy...
It is the wrong 'hand' but at least proves the clearances...
Then I fitted the late model Metro clutch cable, straight fit, no fiddling required!
So then it was on to the Metro lower gearbox mount. After much head scratching, the old (tired) brain remembered my lad's Metro is still sat arounf my Mums, so armed with a phone, off i toddled and took some 'aim and hope' photos of the arm. A-Ha! Thats how it fits! So, once home I dug out a pair of axle stands and lifted the front end up to have a look....
It fits in this 'ere 'ole; well, bolts to the two tapped 'oles on the 'box, sort of like this:
But it wouldn't fit because one side of the bracket on the subframe is in the way, so, out with the grinder and slitting disc and off came the front of the bracket!
Two secondhand and slightly too short to be safe bolts later and its in position, but, even better, it lines up very well with the remaining side of the bracket....
And, once the old exhaust is cut away, there will be room for some custom gear shift links to go in....
I ran out of time/enthusiasm to make a pair of brackets for this today, but I now know it is all looking as though it'll fit a lot easier than I thought!
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