Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 5, 2021 21:20:26 GMT
Offside door now aligned & latching correctly but the external lock isn't working so that's been added to the list
I had to access the door cavity in order to retrieve a nut that had fallen from part of door latching - No wonder that the car has never been welded - there's more oil in the door cavity than you would find in the engine sump !
Still some further alignment / adjustment to make yet
I now need to sort the latching / locking of the door - this has been messed around with by a previous owner to take account of the sagging door / broken hinge pin etc
Chris. not wanting to hijack the thread but, any latching allignment tips? On the GT I had to take the latch off to fit the handles and it all doesn't quite line up now.
Still some further alignment / adjustment to make yet
I now need to sort the latching / locking of the door - this has been messed around with by a previous owner to take account of the sagging door / broken hinge pin etc
Chris. not wanting to hijack the thread but, any latching allignment tips? On the GT I had to take the latch off to fit the handles and it all doesn't quite line up now.
JP - Not an issue in the slightest - I always get the door alignment correct first by removing the latching / striker plate on the B post - once I'm happy with the door fit I look for a point of reference between the catch on the door and the latching / striker plate and then transfer the measurement from a fixed point such as a swage line or top edge etc - this I use to get the plate in the ball park on the B post - but its so much easier said than done - Good strong light helps if you can view down or into the gap between the door & B post as you close them - the easy to set ones are where the door lock is fixed & non adjustable and the adjustment is on the striker plate but on some vehicles there is adjustment on both the lock & striker plate and these can be a pain to get right - chalk or tape on the protruding faces sometime helps to locate where the faces are contacting - and sometimes the striker plate may require shimming out or the angle changing - best thing to do is dry fit loose to the door catch to understand what angle it needs to be at or gain a better understanding of what contacts / interlocks where & how
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 7, 2021 8:07:47 GMT
After much searching I found a endless glazing rubber that I thought would do the job - its far from identical to the original but with the original M section being unavailable the only alternatives were to pay an exorbitant tooling fee plus then a minimum 100 metre run to replicate the original (we are talking somewhat in the realms of £1500 to replace a 2.5 metre length of windscreen rubber) or use the section that I found which cost £50
Rear screen cleaned up and the new rubber fitted
The screen is actually larger than the aperture which is unusual for rubber glazed screen
Its also reverse fitted from the inside out - common glazed rubber automotive windscreen fitments are fitted from the outside in
Fitted then windscreen sealer applied to both external sides of the glazing rubber
Locking strip inserted to the inside - what's unusual about the way that I've used this rubber is the fact that I've reversed it - the rubber face with chrome locking strip would conventually be on the outside - by installing it in reverse I've managed to obtain a very close match with the original rubber fitment externally but a different fitment on the interior (which most will not see) - Sometimes in the old car game you just need to think outside of the box
The fitment was then tested to a couple of hours of what the current weather conditions could throw at it - and it passed without any sign of water ingress More later
That sealing rubber looks exactly like the one that I will need for my Spitfire hardtop rear glass. I know how long it took for me to find that one, so well done Chris. Love the idea of fitting it in reverse. Did you use cycle puncture repair adhesive to join the ends? Is there a reason for putting the join at the bottom? I would have thought that putting it at the top would mean that less water passed over it reducing, in a minor way, the chance of a leak in the future.
That sealing rubber looks exactly like the one that I will need for my Spitfire hardtop rear glass. I know how long it took for me to find that one, so well done Chris. Love the idea of fitting it in reverse. Did you use cycle puncture repair adhesive to join the ends? Is there a reason for putting the join at the bottom? I would have thought that putting it at the top would mean that less water passed over it reducing, in a minor way, the chance of a leak in the future.
Always join windscreen rubbers at the bottom - much easier to access & work with plus a joint at the top of the screen is potentially in a position where greater air flow pressures are likely to be achieved therefore forcing water ingress into the joint - From experience puncture repair adhesives don't hold strong enough bonds for windscreen rubber joints - I use a specialist product produced by Loctite - basically a superglue for rubber
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 10, 2021 7:45:48 GMT
Latest progress with the Zephyr whilst awaiting other parts for it
Radio speaker / heater control grille has been removed to allow access in order to resolve a number of issues - once traced a number of the electrical problems related to this mess - clearly a idiot at work whoever installed it - rewiring from the fuse box to the heater controls resolved the non working heater / demister fan - rewiring again from the fuse box via inline 5 Amp fuse resolved the radio & low level dash / footwell lighting - its very tight for working space / access behind the dash - my hands, fingers & arms all bear the scars
The non working wiper motor was traced to a perished vacuum pipe that was replaced - yes that's right vacuum wipers - vacuum created at the intake manifold is piped to a vacuum pump that is on the underside of the fuel pump (part of the same assembly and operated on the same cam lever) then routed up to the wiper motor
Handbrake is the pull out lever type mounted to the dashboard - this was sticking heavily on release to the point it could not be released easily
The ratchet pawls are fine but the ratchet rod has seen some heavy wear - currently I cant locate a replacement
I cleaned the burrs off the ratchet teeth and reassembled it
Then refitted it - this literally took hours - next to no access to remove the upper bolts & blind working etc - its much improved but not perfect - unsure if we can find a good used ratchet rod or if they are available through the owners club
Front spot lamps have all been rewired back to a fused supply on the ignition circuit
And a start made on removing the chrome trims in preparation for the windscreen removal
All the interior screen trims have to be removed too - more later
Chris. not wanting to hijack the thread but, any latching allignment tips? On the GT I had to take the latch off to fit the handles and it all doesn't quite line up now.
JP - Not an issue in the slightest - I always get the door alignment correct first by removing the latching / striker plate on the B post - once I'm happy with the door fit I look for a point of reference between the catch on the door and the latching / striker plate and then transfer the measurement from a fixed point such as a swage line or top edge etc - this I use to get the plate in the ball park on the B post - but its so much easier said than done - Good strong light helps if you can view down or into the gap between the door & B post as you close them - the easy to set ones are where the door lock is fixed & non adjustable and the adjustment is on the striker plate but on some vehicles there is adjustment on both the lock & striker plate and these can be a pain to get right - chalk or tape on the protruding faces sometime helps to locate where the faces are contacting - and sometimes the striker plate may require shimming out or the angle changing - best thing to do is dry fit loose to the door catch to understand what angle it needs to be at or gain a better understanding of what contacts / interlocks where & how
that makes (some) sense - thanks! currently really really hot here and off on holidays soon but will see what I can do.
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 13, 2021 9:07:30 GMT
With the windscreen rubber now in stock I could remove the screen
Rather than risk any sprain damage to the chrome trims or damage to the windscreen itself I opted to cut the rubber in order to release them from the aperture
The original windscreen sealer had set stubbornly hard - this is useless to a rubber glazed windscreen fitment which requires a sealer that remains flexible
The hardened sealer took some removing too - weapon of choice for this job is a sharp but plastic non marking chisel
New screen rubber fitted - Its a endless type rubber that's common to many vehicles of the period so its supplied off the roll / by the length and has to be spliced to length once fitted
Top & bottom horizontal trims are fitted to the rubber whilst the screen is out of the car
To assist with the location of the trims I marked the position of them onto the glass prior to removal
Then the rope inserted in order to pull the rubber lip in & over the aperture edge has I fitted the screen
This type of fitment is very difficult to apply the sealer to once fitted hence I applied the sealer to both the glass to rubber channel & rubber to aperture channels prior to fitment
In it goes - its a tight fitment and you need to ensure that the chrome trims clear the windscreen wiper mountings & the roof drip rail at the time of fitment
Side pillar trims fitted which are retained by pop rivets but only once you have managed to slide the top & bottom horizontal trims onto the pillar trim - its a very tight fit that requires much care if you don't want to damage paint / trim / windscreen rubber etc - once fitted I cleaned the fitment up - this will settle over a few days and any excess sealer may require a second clean up once its firmed up / settled in
I could now sort the 'A' post to door seal on the offside
It's glued on but retained further by a alloy strip which is pop rivetted to the 'A' post / windscreen pillar - which is how the factory fitted it originally
And although its not the original rubber trim its does the job very well & looks significantly better than the very degraded one that I removed - still have the nearside one to do but I want to sort the door hinge out on that side first - more later
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 14, 2021 7:43:24 GMT
Sorted the contacts on the horns so that these now work - they have been previously messed around with and I cant get the proper high - low tone from them that I would like - ideally they need rewinding / rebuilding at some stage but they do the job for now
Mounting brackets made up and the battery isolator / cut off installed & wired
Offside door lock / barrel now sorted and back in working condition
And the last of the more time consuming jobs - removal of the nearside door in order to remove the hinges and rebuild them with new hinge pins
This requires removal of the trim panel in the footwell in order to access the hinge bolts - but requires removal of the parcel shelf first
Which in turn requires a fair part of the dash to dissembled including the 2 most difficult bolts that retain the column handbrake lever - how they got this completed in a timely manner on a production line when the car was being assembled new is questionable
Hinge blocks drilled & new pins installed
And the door refitted - dashboard reassembled - just the door card to refit today
Now just down to a final few jobs in order to complete the car, New 'A' post rubber requires fitting on the nearside, I need to have a grease round, check the levels / coolant antifreeze strength etc - a polish / clean up & touch in of the paintwork, valet, then just the tyres to change prior to a final road test
I am going to show my age now, but in 1960 my dads boss brought a brand new Zodiac Convertible Automatic, he wanted my dad to run it in for him ( a lost art now ) I remember going on a 3 hour drive in it just to break it in a bit. As a kid I had never known such a posh car and being automatic and power hood WOW this was quite something in 1960. It has always stuck in my mind.
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 15, 2021 9:25:54 GMT
Door card refitted along with the new 'A' post pillar seal
Now on with giving the car a clean up - to be fair it presents pretty well but its obvious that the paint has faded & dulled - reds are in particular notorious for this and tend to take on a white chalk type appearance
The difference a light compound polish by machine can make to faded paint can be the difference between night & day - the images only show some of the effect - when physically viewed the difference is far more prominent
Post by grumpynorthener on Aug 18, 2021 20:25:24 GMT
I have been avoiding the workshop & resting my back after doing something to it - but it would appear to be well on the mend - not wanting to seize up completely I headed to the workshop on a light work & cure it basis (normally works if I don't go doing anything stupid) - I continued to machine polish the paintwork up which has made a remarkable difference in the cars appearance (and it didn't look too bad to start with)
Worked my way around the car in order to complete the red
Which then just left the cream lower half on the offside to polish
Sometime later
Gave the front bench seat a clean up along with the door cards
Sid called in to ensure that I'd not missed any of the details when polishing
Need to get the car on to stands & the wheels off in morning then I can take the wheels over to the specialist tyre supplier
Then I need to get the both colours matched in order to get the paint mixed for touching in - once that's done I need to give the vinyl hood a clean up and the car can be delivered
Chris - Are you going to have to take a couple of polished parts to the paint factors to be analysed for colour matching or can you still just get the paint mixed to the body paint code?