Still not perfect but my gut feeling was tweaking the program more wasn’t going to yield further improvements. Whilst the radius was really close to what it should be, it wasn’t quite right. I decided I could improve on this so switched the kiln off . First thing I wanted to,do was make sure they would stand up to the next part of the manufacturing process
No problem with sandblasting the inside to make them opaque. Originally I had been to a glass supplier that imports all the bullseye glass the folk that make stained glass windows use to try and match the glass. None of the opaques or white glass looked right, so had tried sandblasting and it looked spot on
Whilst the kiln was switched off I decided to alter the tooling. I was convinced the reason the lenses were not exactly the right radius was probably due to air trap in the mold. So I polished off the ceramic coating, drilled a 1mm hole in the centre of the mold and out the bottom to get the air out. I reapplied the ceramic coating and was good to go.And this is where it all went horribly wrong 🙁
Post by grumpynorthener on Apr 9, 2024 9:36:53 GMT
Credit to you JB for your perseverance - glass forming is a dark art - Many, many years ago I worked for a laminated vehicle windscreen manufacture where windscreens were produced from 2 sheets of 2.2mm flat glass cut to size with the outer sheet being larger to account for the external screen curvature then placed to a jig frame before being run through a multiple staged kiln process (semi automatic) through pre heating followed by the forming (taking less than a few mins) then a staged cooling process - The 2 formed pieces of glass were then separated, cleaned and a plastic interlayer added between them - final process after being racked to stillages was for them to be autoclaved - Several critical areas in the preheat / forming / cooling process had to be adhered to otherwise very negative results occurred - This included incorrect curvatures, stress cracking, distorted vision etc - wastage was present but only in a very small % and the factory was producing units in the 1,000's weekly
Not sure how I missed this whole post, but just had a chance to read through the lot. Like others, I'm often lost by the details of what you do, but very pleased to watch a master in his craft - the only lathe work I've ever done was at school for my metalwork O level!
If the Hetzer work is for who I think it is, you'll be making 4 sets? Steve
Not sure how I missed this whole post, but just had a chance to read through the lot. Like others, I'm often lost by the details of what you do, but very pleased to watch a master in his craft - the only lathe work I've ever done was at school for my metalwork O level!
If the Hetzer work is for who I think it is, you'll be making 4 sets? Steve
Tool modified to release trapped air…Check Tool recoated in Boron Nitride…Check More blanks cut… Check Kiln moved out of the doorway of the garage and up against the back wall…. Check
So kiln fired up to continue production
WHY? Ok. Maybe it was a dud blank. Try again
REALLY? No matter what I did,it didn’t work. Definitely suffering the reverse Midas touch, where everything I touch turns to shyte. Gave it up for a couple of days to think it all through. I was missing something. No ways my previous four useable parts in a row was a fluke. Granted changing so many variables in one hit is not ideal, but I couldn’t see why I was making one scrap part after the other . I definitely was missing something
So ,having looked at the failures a bit closer,it was evident two things were different. I already knew the second failure piece of glass was from a different pane and might not be the same glass as before. Further analysis showed that all the broken edges on both were fire polished. This means that the part must have broken when it was warming up, not when it was cooling down.
This piece is actually fused together again, confirming that it definitely was broken during the heating cycle,and that it had a lower melting point than the previously used glass.
So I changed the program, lower slumping temperature, less slumping time and a much slower ramp up to temperature. So it should of sorted all the issues…but it didn’t 🤔 So I looked at the previous data log
I then looked at the infamous 300 c data log
The red circle highlighted something I hadn’t figured on. All the good parts made previously had been done by hot swapping blanks when the kiln was still above 50c
Changed the program that the initial ramp wouldn’t rapidly spike over 100c
That initial spike in temperature rapidly going over 100c was the root of all my problems. Strange but true. A lot to be said for data logging as a diagnostic tool 🤣
With the glass blanks well under control again, I started making a tool to trim them to size. Would have been quicker to make in the Cnc lathe, but that was busy on three rotor parts.( Another thread I need to start 🤣)
Concave side done. Got some scrap silicon sprue from a customer to make the glass grip into the holder a bit better
Not something I've messed with before, bar a glass blowing course (which was excellent) Thanks for taking the time to post. Just goes to prove - everyday is a school day
Very interesting, lots of learning on the job going on! hate to think of the hours that have gone into those!
Glad you enjoyed it. I am fortunate with a couple of my customers that they are prepared to throw oddball jobs out there. Normally taken on as filler jobs with no urgent deadline dates, so I can throw more time at them than I normally would, should the need arise. The lens job was taken on more as a proof of concept type of job. It landed up with 6 seemingly really expensive lights, but it has opened up a pathway to possibly make some other glass parts for the same customer. It’s been a learn on the job kind of deal,but like the customer says, most people would just tell you no, it can’t be done, so it’s refreshing to find someone willing to venture out their comfort zone. 😊
That’s a wrap then. Ready to install. The black Bosch connector is where the gun plugs in. For the uninformed, the main gun on the Hetzer was electrically fired. Funnily enough, I’ve got four of those firing mechanisms to make next, along with all the gun parts and breech blocks. All suitably manufactured to go bang but without being able to propel projectiles any more. A much better option than chopping holes in barrels or welding holes up, easier just to leave certain holes out.